HAS THE GOSPEL MESSAGE LOST SOME OF ITS GLORY SINCE FIRST DELIVERED?

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.. And all was very good" [Gen 1:1, 27 and 31]. ("And won't He give the Spirit to them that ask Him?" Luke 11:13) ...God's rescue from the outcome of "missing the mark" sin "was finished from the foundation/creation of the world" [Heb 4:3]. "My word that goes out from my mouth will accomplish all I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it" [Is 55:11]. Perfect, makes no mistakes. Can lose nothing. Ultimately all will repent.. there may even "be weeping and gnashing of teeth" in "outer darkness" but - "In Christ all will be made alive! Each in his own order - those who are Christ’s at His coming, then the end when Christ hands the kingdom over to God the Father.. that He may be all in all" [1 Cor 15:22-28].

Showing posts with label judgment day. Show all posts
Showing posts with label judgment day. Show all posts

Wednesday, August 8, 2018

What Is Judgment Day?

"Penal substitution" so the most dense malefactor can understand it? I don't understand what people believe judgment day is. It seems to me like the most prevalent view is that judgment day is at one's death. At death, the 'good'/the believers in Jesus float up into heaven or are escorted there by angels. And a nonbeliever is sucked into 'hell'.

OR, all souls are held in a holding place until judgment day, when en masse, all unsaved are stamped "guilty"... Perhaps I am a 13 year old girl, and I find myself awakened from my grave, and  I find myself beside and receiving the same sentence as the worst despot, torturer and rapist of small children. It's simply unavoidable and God can do nothing about it.

OR, I have been conscious since, perhaps 1000 B.C. but now standing before God's throne, I am declared guilty. There is no trial, defense nor advocate. It's unavoidable, the means of my redemption was during my lifetime. I missed it, and God can do nothing about it. I will be tormented forever and ever, perhaps at the center of the earth, while there is great rejoicing going on above me, where everyone's joy is complete. I am forgotten by all including God. Or perhaps I perish and am no more. Not mourned, for all's joy is complete.

Then why the dramatic image of Jesus hanging upon the cross as a penal substitute? When living during 1000 B.C. I never heard about that, nor was ever exposed to the image.

I've been studying the bible for almost 40 years. I used to use the big Strong's books, but now of course there's great bible study aids and interlinear version (with links to the original words used) at my very fingertips. These have always impacted me far more than any teachings or long held doctrines. The Word itself, above, what others say the Word says.

So why 'penal substitute'/redemption if I am never exposed to it, but am simply stamped guilty and off I go? Some will say, nature/creation was your witness, you should have figured it out. Ba-bye.

Here's what I've come to believe.. Jesus is the Passover Lamb, belief equals obedience, His blood on the doorposts of my awareness saves me from (the angel of) death. He is the un-leavened (pristine) bread of life / the Truth. With no dilution/corruption. And He is "the Firstfruits of God". - 1 Cor 15:22-23 "..in Christ made alive, but each in their own order, Christ the firstfruits.."

His first advent perfectly fulfilled ancient Israel's Spring Holy Days (see Lev 23; Numbers 28,29) of Passover, Unleavened Bread, and Firstfruits.

Then between Spring and Fall, Pentecost, when the promised (great) gift of the Holy Spirit was poured out (ultimately?) upon all flesh.

What about the Fall Holy Days? (Lev 23; Numbers 28,29) -- Trumpets, Day of Atonement, Tabernacles? Are they fulfilled by His long second advent? The pattern of them is Trumpets, upon the first day of the new month/moon, and 10 days later is Day Of Atonement. And 5 days after that is Tabernacles, which lasts a whole week, Lev 23:34.

If Trumpets - surely(?) is His return and the Trumps of apocalypse, then 10 days/1000 years(?) later is Judgment 'Day'. And 5 days/500 years after that begins Tabernacles, when the Almighty Father says - Rev 21 - He will now Tabernacle with mankind upon Earth made new!

Note: "...the rest of the dead come not back to life until the thousand years are ended.." Rev 20:5

Doesn't this sound like 1 Cor 15? - 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: [1]Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming[2]. 24 Then comes the end, when [3]He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27 For “He has put all things under His feet.” But when He says “all things are put under Him,” it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

Rev 21:5 - "Behold I make all things new".

Matthew 13:33 - “The kingdom of heaven is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in 3 measures of meal till it was all leavened.”

I guess I should do a google search, see if there's anyone else in all the world who believes this - that the Ancient fall holy days are a shadow and pattern of Jesus' long second advent, from last days and His return, to when God says "behold I make all things new.. I will now tabernacle with mankind upon Earth.." He will be "all in all". [Glory!]

Isaiah 11:7 - "The cows will graze among bears; cubs and calves will lie down together, and lions will eat grass like the ox."

Note: It's DOA for the doa?! 1 Tim 4:10, Jn 12:32, Philippians 2:10-11, &tc..

Thursday, January 18, 2018

Universalist Judgment Day Not A Cake Walk

It’s not that Christian Universalism believes Judgment ‘Day’ will be a cake walk! If one dies “still in their sins” then they will rise still in their sins - and, infirmities!

Just look at history! It’s a sad, pitiful, horrendous story! An intense day of its review is sure to include some weeping and gnashing of teeth, with plenty of outer darkness to go around.

It’s not like Hitler and Pol Pot, etc. will be welcomed into the bosom of God with open arms! “Our God is a consuming fire”!

But this does not nullify Jesus' words - "If I be lifted up from the Earth I will draw all to Me" -- "For it pleased the Father that in Him all the fullness should dwell, and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, by Him, whether things on earth or things in heaven, having made peace through the blood of His cross". [John 12:32; Colossians 1:19-20]

"Having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself, that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth" -- "..that God may be all in all" -- "According to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will" -- "My counsel shall stand, and I will accomplish all my purpose" -- "The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise.. not willing that any should perish but that all come to repentance." [Ephesians 1:9,10; 1 Corinthians 15:28; Ephesians 1:11; Isaiah 46:10; 2 Peter 3:9]

"Behold, I am the Lord.. is there any thing too hard for me?" - Jeremiah 32:27

Wednesday, February 24, 2016

Three Harvests


Matthew 24:29-31 - “And immediately after the tribulation of those days.. they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”

A MIraculous Catch Of Fish
Luke 5:6 - “they caught such a large number of fish that their nets began to break.” Another miraculous harvest of fish occurred again later, after His resurrection - John 21:1,6 -  “After these things Jesus showed Himself to the disciples at the Sea of Tiberias.. He said to them, “Cast the net on the right side of the boat.. and they were unable to haul the net in because of the large number of fish.”

Matthew 13:47-50 -  “The kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet that was cast into the sea and gathered some of every kind, which, when it was full, they drew to shore; and they sat down and gathered the good into vessels, but threw the bad away. So it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come forth, separate the wicked from among the just, and cast them into the furnace of fire..”

Revelation 16:14-16 - using/allowing the (14)“spirits of demons to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. (15)‘Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments..’ (16)And they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon.” (Gathered to hatred of Israel, Rev 12:17 & 7:4.)

Obadiah 1:15 - “The day of the Lord is near for all nations. As you have done, it will be done to you; your deeds will return upon your own head.”

Joel 3:14 - “Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision! For the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision.”

Matthew 25:31-34 & 41 -  “When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him.. All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats. And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left. Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the reign prepared for you from the foundation of the world”.. And from the Concordant Literal Version, “then shall He be declaring to those also at His left, 'Go from Me, you cursed, into the fire eonian, made ready for the Adversary and his messengers."

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 - “..the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.” (“At His coming”)

 1 Thessalonians 1:7-8 - “..when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire, giving vengeance to those not knowing God..”

Romans 2:5 - “..storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed.”

Revelation 14:17-18,20 - “another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. And another angel came out from the altar, who had power over fire... And the winepress was trampled outside the city..”

Isaiah 30:25 - “On every lofty mountain and on every high hill there will be streams of water on the day of the great slaughter (the day of the Lord), when the towers fall..”

Acts 2:21 - “And it shall come to pass that whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

John 6:37 - “..and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.”

Revelation 20:4-6 - “And they will live and reign with Christ a thousand years. (But the rest of the dead live not again until the thousand years are finished.) This is the first resurrection. Blessed are they  who have part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.”

Revelation 20:7,12 - “When the thousand years are completed.. ..I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened..”

Daniel 7:9-10 - “I kept looking until thrones were set up, and the Ancient of Days (God) took His seat ..and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.”

Luke 11:31 - “The queen of the South will rise up in the judgment with the men of this generation and condemn them..”

Matthew 11:22 - “...it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you.”

Matthew 11:24 - “But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you.”

Matthew 12:36 - “...everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken.”

Mark 6:11 - “And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment, than for that city.”

Acts 2:21 - “And it shall come to pass that whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.” 

John 6:37 - “..and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.”
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1 Corinthians 15:22-24 - Young's Literal Translation with New King James

“For even as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all shall be made alive, but each in his proper order, [#1 harvest] (the all important) “first-fruit Christ, afterwards [#2] those who are Christ's, at His coming,  then -- [#3] the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father." ("So that He will be all in all", verse 28.)